Gears on 360 vs Killswitch\Rainbow6 on ps2. | Cover System end debate.

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#1 Wil4hire
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Why is it that Bots think that GEARS invented the cover system? And that when any game from now on has a cover system, its a "GEARS" like rip off? Can bots please explain this? I can accept that. But lets not act like GEARS invented ANYTHING new, outside of being pretty. And the Weapon select? Please, Rainbow 6 has been doing it for ages.

Bots, why do you think Gears invented the Cover system, or even"IMPROVED" on the generic one? Can bots finally just say to themselves "Oh I didn't know Gears didn't invent the cover system. Killswitch has blind fire.. hmm.. Did not know that, I guess you learn something everyday."

Enjoy.

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#2 LEGEND_C4A
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this must really be bothering you huh? does it really matter? do you own a 360? are you just hating because a game on another system is getting credit for something it doesn't deserve, or does it just bother you in general and you feel like the world must know what you know?

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#3 Wil4hire
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this must really be bothering you huh? does it really matter? do you own a 360? are you just hating because a game on another system is getting credit for something it doesn't deserve, or does it just bother you in general and you feel like the world must know what you know?

LEGEND_C4A

What did I say in my thread that has anything to do with "hating." Truth is, most game enthusiasts know these facts. Bots = fanboys. Every 360 owner isn't a bot, get it? Im pointing this out for the bots.

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#4 musicalmac  Moderator
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Gears was the first game that did it well. The pretty graphics and grisly story helped, too ;)
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#5 Jud0ka
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Gears was the first game that did it well. The pretty graphics and grisly story helped, too ;)musicalmac

Thats right.I played killswitch for XBox and enjoyed the game. The fact is that GEoW made the cover system more fluid and easier to use. that is why it gets so much credit.

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#6 Wil4hire
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Gears was the first game that did it well. The pretty graphics and grisly story helped, too ;)musicalmac

Gears had the cover system with a pretty next-gen game. But the cover system is the exact same. If you can point out how the difference is between the killswitch cover system, and the gears cover system.. I'd love to see that argument made. As well as the weapon select.

Gears is badass & Popular. But it didn't invent anything. So I can see it being badass & popular as the reason for the comparisions, but when a game is said to be a "knock off" of Gears.. which is a knock off of so many other titles, that makes absolutely no sense. When that argument is made, its as if Gears is the originator, not just a fun game.

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#7 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Gears was the first game that did it well. The pretty graphics and grisly story helped, too ;)Wil4hire

Gears had the cover system with a pretty next-gen game. But the cover system is the exact same. If you can point out how the difference is between the killswitch cover system, and the gears cover system.. I'd love to see that argument made. As well as the weapon select.

Gears is bad*** & Popular. But it didn't invent anything. So I can see it being badass & popular as the reason for the comparisions, but when a game is said to be a "knock off" of Gears.. which is a knock off of so many other titles, that makes absolutely no sense. When that argument is made, its as if Gears is the originator, not just a fun game.

I didn't make the argument. I said Gears did it well. The cover system is not exactly the same.
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#8 Mandingo101
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basically gears did it with a new coat of paint, a really good one too. and thats why it gets all the credit, its sad but true...
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#9 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

this must really be bothering you huh? does it really matter? do you own a 360? are you just hating because a game on another system is getting credit for something it doesn't deserve, or does it just bother you in general and you feel like the world must know what you know?

Wil4hire

What did I say in my thread that has anything to do with "hating." Truth is, most game enthusiasts know these facts. Bots = fanboys. Every 360 owner isn't a bot, get it? Im pointing this out for the bots.

I understand that, but in reality. does it really matter? and I know you didn't say hate anywhere, but there sure sounds like some anger in there. I'm pretty sure if this game was out on the PS3, you would have never started this post. for you togo out of your way, with pics and stuff, shows that this is very important that people know the truth. so somewhere in your little heart, there is anger that people are giving a 360 game credit for something it doesn't deserve.

if I'm wrong so be it, but thats the nature of this forum,but either way thats how I feel.

Peace!

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#10 Lonelynight
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Even Epic admitted it, so if anyone else says they thought of it is a blind fanboy
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#11 LEGEND_C4A
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Honestly, don't know why people are so bothered about gears and the cover system. Rainbow six: Vegas cover system is way better.

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#12 OldParr
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too late to hate???
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#13 Vyse_The_Daring
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And cows act like Heavenly Sword invented having many enemies with distinct AI, but it didn't. Will you make a thread about that next?

Fanboys will be fanboys pal.

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#14 Eurobacca
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Gears made it better even if it is similar to Killswitch, But the best cover system to date is Rainbow Six Vegas
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#15 WSP87
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People get all bent out of shape over this because some fanboy cries stolen ideas on a daily basis. Killzone 2 has a cover system now, they call rip off of gears. Dark sector has a cover system, they call rip off (although it sorta is lol). It's just annoying ya know?
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#16 Eurobacca
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I guess cows are really going to hate the cover system in Uncharted since it copies Killswitch
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#17 bezaire2005
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I haven't seen anybody post that they thought Gears was teh first game to use a cover system...so I really don't know what the TC is talking about. Even if there are people who think that, I think it's pretty clear that it's far from being the majority around here. If you want me to pick a few ps3 fanboys that go around saying rediculous stuff and use it to represent YOUR view, than I have no problem doing that...but that would be stupid wouldn't it? Well that's what your doing...I'm just letting you know how stupid it is.

Second: How are people going to argue which game does it "best"? It's all a matter of opinion: either you like it or you don't. It's endless threads like this that people end up getting the most heated, and there is no reason for it. Obviously the tc thinks there are better cover systems than Gears...which is fine. Obviously there are other people who think Gears did the cover system the best...which is fine. Nobody has stated any facts or any real reason why they are right....waste of time.

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#18 sadikovic
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WOW I had no idea games do that, copying each other really!

My topic weren't against your precious exclusive I just thought it was important give an example of whats happening to games/companies these days.

For me its depressing having so many ideas and watching companies get millions to basicaly slightly change things.

For some reason you think I like GeOW, dont know where you got that from.

Only a clown would look at that clip I provided and not get scared by how companies are really smacking people with quite obviously playing it safe and using things(a lot of things) from other games.

But thats kwl I bet your one of those who wouldn't mind playing Final Fantasy 17 on PS5.

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#19 The_Crucible
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Thats right.I played killswitch for XBox and enjoyed the game. The fact is that GEoW made the cover system more fluid and easier to use. that is why it gets so much credit.

Jud0ka

Its not apoint that GeOW didn't improve the cover system. Its the fact that lems like to attack uncharted for "copying" a duck and cover system that existed well before GeOW.

Thats right.I played killswitch for XBox and enjoyed the game. The fact is that GEoW made the cover system more fluid and easier to use. that is why it gets so much credit.

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#20 Viviath
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Gears was the first game that did it well. The pretty graphics and grisly story helped, too ;)musicalmac

irrelavent but true.

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#21 kcpp2b
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I don't think Killswitch invented cover in games... I was in a thread months ago talking about the history of cover in games and they mentioned some other game that was the first to use cover...can't remember which
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#22 Private_Vegas
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People actually think Gears was the pioneer gamefor the cover system? Wow....... I'm blow away by that. I remember Killswitch well. For a game based entirly on the principle of hiding, it was awesome.
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#23 wergfwefwef
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its not actually about the cover system, but how well it works. Those game such as killswitch arent even online, and from what I remember, killswitch didnt get good ratings. Theres no games out there that are like Gears. Gears is special in many ways.
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People actually think Gears was the pioneer gamefor the cover system? Wow....... I'm blow away by that. I remember Killswitch well. For a game based entirly on the principle of hiding, it was awesome.Private_Vegas

Killswitch was ok but got boring fast.

And sorry to the TC and your but not many people here even lemmings who love gears thinks Gears invented the cover system. I barely ever see that here but the TC acts like it's something that WIDELY discussed here lol

Something that would be widely discussed and dumb would be the whole such and such games looks bad or not great even though it's in the alpha stage or pre-alpha etc... But this.... this is almost a non issue as I barely ever see it on here and I'm here pretty often

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[QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]People actually think Gears was the pioneer gamefor the cover system? Wow....... I'm blow away by that. I remember Killswitch well. For a game based entirly on the principle of hiding, it was awesome.kcpp2b

Killswitch was ok but got boring fast.

And sorry to the TC and your but not many people here even lemmings who love gears thinks Gears invented the cover system. I barely ever see that here but the TC acts like it's something that WIDELY discussed here lol

Something that would be widely discussed and dumb would be the whole such and such games looks bad or not great even though it's in the alpha stage or pre-alpha etc... But this.... this is almost a non issue as I barely ever see it on here and I'm here pretty often

Which lemmings think Gears invented the cover system? Lets see some names

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#27 Verge_6
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Wait...you think the horrid cover system in kill.switch is the same as Gears of War's? You obviously haven't played both, if either.

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#28 xTHExJUICEx
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And cows act like Heavenly Sword invented having many enemies with distinct AI, but it didn't. Will you make a thread about that next?

Fanboys will be fanboys pal.

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#29 Wil4hire
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[QUOTE="Jud0ka"]

Thats right.I played killswitch for XBox and enjoyed the game. The fact is that GEoW made the cover system more fluid and easier to use. that is why it gets so much credit.

The_Crucible

Its not apoint that GeOW didn't improve the cover system. Its the fact that lems like to attack uncharted for "copying" a duck and cover system that existed well before GeOW.

Thats right.I played killswitch for XBox and enjoyed the game. The fact is that GEoW made the cover system more fluid and easier to use. that is why it gets so much credit.

*DING* *DING* *DING*

Thank you. Christ I was waiting for someone to tie the two together.

Every single game made from now on is accused of ripping of Gears.

You use Normal Maps? GEARS rip off..

You have guns? Gears rip off..

Cover system? Gears rip off..

Weapon Select UI? Gears rip off..

Little characters making enviornments? Gears rip off..

Look at all tne uncharted threads saying its a "Gears" knock off. no game can ever get props for what it is.

Gears is a badass FPS. Is it a knock off of previous games? Of course.. its an FPS. That takes nothing away from it, but the argument is never blasted over and over again that Its not doing anything innovative so its just a Rainbow 6/Quake knock off.

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#30 -wii60-
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This cow came from the past to bash gears, ur time machine is broken i guess.